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Bob Bichen's avatar

Debunk this, all you criminals and their associates: https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1661698114917646336

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Michael Patmas, MD's avatar

Easy. You can do better than that!. The ICS is a lofty sounding event hosted the same unqualified fake experts who have been pedaling misinformation all along. Not one is them is a recognized, cedible infectious disease expert. You might as well assemble the dude at the gym, the gal at the tattoo parlor, the bartender and the janitor set them in front of a microphone and have them pontificate unscientific nonsense, None of the speakers at the psudo event have any real infectious disease credentials. The only one who does is Renault and he is under cromonal investigation in France for research fraud. You see Bob, this is my point exactly. If you can't see how fake these experts are you are being duped. None them are legit. They are the Milli Vanilli of pseudoscience. Lips synchers. Cover bands. They would all be laughed out the room at any legitimate medical conference. Fake experts with falsified resumes.

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Bob Bichen's avatar

Right, all ad hominem, because you're 100% incapable of disputing the facts that Dr. Martin has presented (which are all easily verifiable.) FAIL!

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Michael Patmas, MD's avatar

Martin? He is NOT an infectious disease doctor. Is he even an MD?

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/new-plandemic-video-peddles-misinformation-conspiracies/#David-Martin-and-Patent-Claims

He was a star in that fake politcal documentary "plandemic".

Do you know who produced "plandemic"?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8318131/

This panel is the fakest of fakes. You can dress them up and give the meeting a lofty title. Its still a fake meeting with fake experts.

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Bob Bichen's avatar

Saranac Hale Spencer worked as a reporter for 10 years before joining FactCheck.org in 2017. Sorry, she's not qualified to discuss this topic per your criteria. Next.

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Michael Patmas, MD's avatar

She is qaulified to research and fact check. She is NOT qualified to give medical advice as an expert. ONLY licensed physicians can do that and ONLY within their areas of training. You arent qualified to opine as an expert about anything in medicine.

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Bob Bichen's avatar

I've had no jabs and I'm still alive. Per your logic, all the vaxxers will now die because of this single data point. The reason excess deaths are slowing is because you can only die once. Booster uptake is terrible because so many became ill or saw their friends and neighbours die from the "fully vaccinated" two doses. The excess death increases correlated perfectly with the mandates. Also, you're whistling past the graveyard. Why do you think real vaccines take 10 or more years to go through approvals (which incidentally are nowhere near sufficient since no vaccine has ever had an RCT for safety?) The deaths from the jabs will keep occurring as rapid onset cancers will continue to manifest and autoimmune diseases continue to mount. We're only in the first inning.

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Michael Patmas, MD's avatar

What a perfect response. Illogical at best.

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HG's avatar

Excellent analysis as always, Bob.

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HG's avatar

You’re bought and sold patmas.

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Michael Patmas, MD's avatar

"Bought and sold" implies some personal financial motivation. In fact, I have no commercial interest or benefit whatsoever. I am sold however on high quality evidence published in peer reviewed journals by my colleagues who are actually infectious disease doctors. The gaggle of unqualified bottom dwellers posing as experts doesn't convince me and they should not have been allowed to influence public health policy.

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Bob Bichen's avatar

Incredibly insightful response. I'm sure you've convinced everyone with your brilliant counter-argument. Well done!

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HG's avatar

Cj...why don’t you and patmas suck each other’s dicks. I notice you like to talk about sucking dick so just a suggestion.

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I don’t but you and patmas can have at it!

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Michael Patmas, MD's avatar

TU CJ. Actually its fine. Their responses are so bizarre it exposes them. Remember the name of my blog? EXPOSED. I like to draw them out so any rational person can see how unhinged and illogical they are.

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https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

Take a look at second category of graphs, labeled excess mortality.

Granted, it is for European counties, and granted the methodology to calculate the benchmark is "funny". However, the results shown there are not consistent with your claim

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Michael Patmas, MD's avatar

"CAUTION: Please note that the cumulated excess mortality outputs for the COVID-19 pandemic period may be unreliable, due to some model issues. See more information and technical explanations in the EuroMOMO weekly bulletin"

Gotta read the disclaimer and the footnotes!

No epidemiologist in the world can touch Dr. Jelelina. Her analyses are bullet proof. She would not publish anything requiring a disclaimer that the data may be "UNRELIABLE."

If the data is UNRELIABLE, dont pubish it.

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